Gut Check Time for Lesbian TS/TG Women

I personally get really tired of the Lesbian Community and their trips regarding TS/TG women including post-transsexual women.

A lot of the time I feel more objectified by lesbians than I do by men.

I get sick and tired of people trying to write theory on my body instead of just accepting me for who I am.

I am a human being.  I had my reasons for having a sex change operation.  My gender is just as natural or unnatural as the next woman.

It is a product of and reflective of my socialization just as with any other woman.

Over a life time I’ve loved and made love with both men and women.

I have been with Tina since 2001 and I am monogamous.

I am bisexual and mostly homosocial.  The lesbian community has made it very hard for me to want to embrace the term lesbian, so often I use the 1970s expression “dyke” instead.

Here is where the gut check resides.

Ask yourself this question:

As a post-transsexual lesbian would I take another post-transsexual lesbian as a lover?

Would you consider marrying another post-transsexual woman presuming of course the other things that cement a relationship?

If you are a TG or pre-op lesbian identified sister would you become lovers with or marry another sister in the same situation you are in?

Would you feel that relationship was just as valid a lesbian relationship as one between two cis-sex/gender lesbians or between a TS/TG lesbian and a Cis-sex/gender lesbian?

If being asked to imagine that troubles you or if you reject that idea ask yourself why you feel that way.

Perhaps some post-transsexual as well as pre-op and TG sisters need to think about their own cotton ceilings that they are carrying around.

What does it say about you if you would reject another sister, even one of the same surgery status as yourself because you think the idea of going to bed with her is kind of icky.

If some where in the back of your mind there is the tiny kernel of fear that this is too much like being or someone could construe us as being two gay guys.

That’s a hard one to shake when people tell us that is what we are, but breaking down our own cotton ceilings is an important step in getting rid of them for everyone.

We have to value ourselves and others like us, our sisters who have walked the same paths we ourselves have walked, enough to not reject another lesbian identified sister just because she too is TS or TG.

There may be other reasons, legitimate ones for not wanting to become involved.

But rejecting the possibility and then complaining when cis-sex/gender lesbians reject you because you are trans is sort of weird.

I think this means a lot of sisters need to work on their own internalized transphobia and self-esteem issues.

Validation comes from within but acceptance by others requires the accepting of others.

Right now there is some really shitty stuff going on in the Lesbian Community and I’m glad I’m not part of it.

Pussy Riot trial gives Russia ‘the image of a medieval dictatorship’

From The Guardian UK:

Even some of Putin’s supporters are aghast at the penal term handed out to the feminist punks. Amid a global storm of protest, signs have emerged that they might be released early – but a deep national rift remains, Saturday 18 August 2012

A storm of criticism broke in Russia following the harsh two-year prison sentences given to three members of the feminist punk band Pussy Riot for protesting against the government in a Moscow cathedral. Those openly critical of the jail terms included some who are close to Vladimir Putin and others with strong links to the church, increasing pressure on the authorities to treat the trio more leniently.

Three members of the punk collective – Maria Alyokhina, 24, Yekaterina Samutsevich, 30, and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22 – were sentenced to serve two years in a penal colony on Friday after being found guilty of “hooliganism motivated by religious hatred”. A Moscow judge rejected the defence’s argument that the band’s performance of an anti-Putin “punk prayer” was a form of political protest and ruled that it was motivated by hatred for Russian Orthodoxy.

Alexey Kudrin, a former finance minister who remains a close ally of Putin, said: “The verdict in the case against the Pussy Riot punk band isn’t only a fact in the lives of three young women; it is also yet another blow to the justice system and, above all, Russian citizens’ belief in it.”

Billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, another member of the country’s minority liberal elite, also attacked the verdict, calling it a “strategic error that terribly damages the authority of the justice system”. He voiced the widespread belief that the court case was politically orchestrated: “We don’t know who took the final decision – the Kremlin? The patriarch? Probably not the court itself.”

Opposition activists have accused Putin of orchestrating the campaign against Pussy Riot. The trio were arrested after a brief performance in Moscow’s Cathedral of Christ the Saviour of a song calling for the Virgin Mary to “chase Putin out”. The band formed in response to Putin’s decision to return to the presidency, and have gone from being a radical fringe group to becoming the figureheads of a protest movement numbering tens of thousands.

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Pussy Riot Protest: 6 Protestors Arrested In NYC

Russia faces international condemnation over Pussy Riot

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NOM’s Robert George Is Responsible For Family Research Council’s Anti-Gay Hate Speech

From The New Civil Rights Movement:

by Scott Rose
on August 18, 2012

Reposted with permission

According to Robert P. George‘s Princeton University bio, Robert George sits on the Board of Directors  of the anti-gay hate group Family Research Council (FRC).

George also is a founder and current mastermind of the anti-gay-rights National Organization for Marriage (NOM).

Together with the convicted felon Chuck Colson, Robert George wrote and promoted the gay-bashing Manhattan Declaration.

Though hate group leader Robert George wrote the following phrase into his declaration — “We believe in law and in the rule of law” — the hypocrite’s group NOM broke campaign finance laws 18 times.

Robert George — a head of that anti-gay group of  law-breakers — also is, deplorably, embedded in the United States government as part of the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom.

Bearing critical witness about Robert George’s and NOM’s gay-bashing hatred to the California Fair Political Practices Commission, Ellen Sturtz of Equality California said:

“I come here today, urging you to do your utmost to protect our democracy against those who have contempt for it, us and our laws.”

Robert George’s Family Research Council, aggressively assisted by Robert George’s National Organization For Marriage, long has propagandized — and by that I mean, told lies about — why the Southern Poverty Law Center placed the Family Research Council on its anti-gay hate groups list.

SPLC’s main criteria for putting an anti-gay group on the hate groups list include that a group spreads demonizing lies against gay people.

There is seemingly no end to the demonizing lies that Robert George, FRC and NOM spread against LGBTers.

Here is one example from all of the demonizing lies that Robert George’s FRC spreads against gays:

“One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order.”

NOM’s Brian Brown recently appeared on television. A CNN interviewer asked him about that FRC statement:

“Isn’t that hateful in your opinion?”

Brian Brown answered: “No.”

The interviewer had already told the anti-gay bigot Brian Brown — directly– that from that statement, and others like it:

“We . . understand why they were labeled a hate group.”

It was not clear whether the interviewer understands that NOM’s Robert George also is an FRC board member. However that may be, she tried once more with NOM’s Brian Brown.

“It is spewing hate,” she said. She asked if he agrees that it is spewing hate; Brian Brown said “No.”

Something that Robert George, the FRC and NOM appear not yet to have comprehended is that mainstream America recognizes anti-gay hate speech when it hears it. With ever-accelerating rapidity, more and more Americans are understanding that all bullying non-acceptance of LGBTers is rooted in sheer hate and ignorance. Despite Robert George’s, FRC’s and NOM’s best efforts to poison people’s minds against LGBTers, the expansion of understanding, acceptance and support for equality is inexorable.

Still, being as Robert George has not yet apologized for the above example of FRC’s anti-gay hate speech, let us analyze what makes it hate speech.

The sentence identifies “the homosexual rights movement” as the “defendant” of the accusation, but it does not specify who that defendant is, meaning, Robert George/FRC are alleging that all persons involved with “the homosexual rights movement” are guilty of the accusation.

One part of the accusation is that a “primary goal” of “the homosexual rights movement” is “to abolish all age of consent laws.”

By many measures, President Obama, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg are heroes of “the homosexual rights movement.”

In other words, FRC’s Robert George is standing behind — and staking his personal reputation and honor on — the allegation that Obama, Cuomo and Bloomberg “want to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order.”

Yet, Obama, Cuomo and Bloomberg have never in the least advocated abolishing age of consent laws.

So, given Robert George’s group’s anti-gay hate speech lies, it would appear that the Family Research Council’s Robert George’s personal reputation and honor are swirling in the toilet of baseless and defamatory lies where he put them.

Moreover, even if all heterosexual LGBT rights allies are removed from the “defendants” class of Robert George/FRC’s hateful and ridiculous allegation, there is no evidence — admissible in a court or otherwise — that any recognized and established LGBT rights  organization seeks to abolish all age of consent laws.

As an attorney, Robert George perhaps understands the trouble he would have demonstrating to a court of law that his hate speech corresponds to documentable facts.

The evil and malicious aims of this Robert George/Family Research Council hate speech are clear; signal to voters that what gay rights advocates really want is to rape children, in order to hate-and-fear-monger voters into voting against gay rights.

By ghastly ironic coincidence, anti-gay hate group leader Robert George also is on the Board of Advisors of The Catholic League, which fights by the Catholic Church’s side, tooth-and-nail, against the lifting of statutes of limitations for prosecution of child rapes.

That is to say, while fraudulently alleging that all gay rights advocates are pedophiles, Robert P. George is on the Board of Advisors of a group very aggressively seeking to deny child rape victims their days in court.


There is something especially egregious and pernicious about a hate group putting the word “research” in its name, as though all the gay-bashing defamation it pumps out could be dignified with what the word “research” most often implies, i.e. academic discipline, respect for facts, and respect for others.

When NOM sponsored an anti-gay hate rally where one of its speakers yelled through a megaphone that homosexuals are “worthy to death,” virtually the entire “homosexual rights movement” called for NOM to apologize.

NOM ignored those calls then, and has never officially apologized.

For instructions on how to report Robert George’s National Organization for Marriage as a hate group, go here.

Robert George is a Republican party United States government official with authority over FRC and NOM, which deliberately spread demonizing lies against gay people, not stopping short of saying that gay people are “worthy to death.”

And, as a U.S. government official drawing a salary funded by tax payers, FRC’s and NOM’s Robert George has authority over a group known to break campaign finance laws.

Call and write your U.S. Senators and Congresspeople.

Tell them that you object to your taxes paying the salary of Robert George, whose groups, the Family Research Council and the National Organization For Marriage, deliberately scapegoat a social minority by spreading demonizing lies against gays.

Tell your Senators and Congresspeople that you do not think it is appropriate for Robert George to be a U.S. government official, being as he has authority over a group that breaks campaign finance laws.

Tell your Senators and Congresspeople that it is absurd and repugnant for Robert George to be a commissioner with the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom, given that Robert George tells demonizing lies against gay people in hopes of eventually prohibiting all clergy who wish to marry gay couples from doing so.

New York City-based novelist and freelance writer Scott Rose’s LGBT-interest by-line has appeared on,, The New York Blade,, Girlfriends and in numerous additional venues. Among his other interests are the arts, boating and yachting, wine and food, travel, poker and dogs. His “Mr. David Cooper’s Happy Suicide” is about a New York City advertising executive assigned to a condom account.

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Why Would a ‘Mainstream Conservative Think Tank’ Praise the ‘Kill the Gays’ Law?

From Right Wing Watch

by Josh Glasstetter
Fri, 08/17/2012

Dana Milbank writes in a column in today’s Washington Post, “Hateful speech on hate groups,” that the Southern Poverty Law Center “should stop listing a mainstream Christian advocacy group alongside neo-Nazis and Klansmen.” He’s talking about the Family Research Council, which he describes as “a mainstream conservative think tank founded by James Dobson and run for many years by Gary Bauer” which “advocates for a full range of conservative Christian positions, on issues from stem cells to euthanasia.” Going further, Milbank says it’s “reckless” for groups like SPLC to designate FRC as a “hate group.”
While reading all of this, I couldn’t help but wonder why a “mainstream conservative think tank” would defend a bill in Uganda that would put gays and lesbians in prison for life and put them to death for “serial” offenses, among other things. If Milbank had done his homework before writing his column, he would’ve been wondering this same thing.
The reality is that FRC is not a “mainstream conservative think tank.” That’s why FRC is one of only a handful of the many, many groups that oppose equality for gays and lesbians to be designated a “hate group” by SPLC. There’s a big difference between being conservative and being an extremist, but many in the media are missing the distinction. Kyle and Peter have already written about FRC’s history of extremism and SPLC’s criteria (here and here), but I’d like to focus on one particularly outrageous example here.
Back in June of 2010, FRC president Tony Perkins praised the infamous “kill the gays” bill in Uganda, referring to it as an effort to “uphold moral conduct that protects others and in particular the most vulnerable.” The bill that Perkins defended called for life in prison for having sex, even once, with a member of the same sex, or touching someone of the same sex with the intention of having sex.
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Weekly Address: Congress Should Back Plan to Hire Teachers

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Kentucky Distressed That Their God-Fearing Students Are Stupid

From Crooks and Liars:

By Susie Madrak
August 17, 2012

I assume the solution to this problem will be to create more evangelical colleges like Liberty University, where students can concentrate on the really important things, like skirt lengths, hair styles, prayer life, preventing kissing and dancing, random drug tests, avoiding witchcraft, or R-rated movies.

From Wonkett’s Rich Abdill:

Kentucky Republicans passed education legislation in 2009 that made it easier to compare the state’s students to other states. Now they’re very upset that the results came back Stupid.

ACT, the state’s testing company, interviews professors to figure out the things most important to student readiness for college, which sounds like a smart thing to do. Unfortunately, those professors have bad news: If you want students to do well in biology classes, they have to know about evolution.

Rather predictably, the Kentucky GOP is madder than a plumber in a Chipotle.“I think we are very committed to being able to take Kentucky students and put them on a report card beside students across the nation,” said Republican Sen. David Givens. “We’re simply saying to the ACT people we don’t want what is a theory to be taught as a fact in such a way it may damage students’ ability to do critical thinking.”

Yes! Let’s teach students about how Chuck E. Cheese made the Earth out of popsicle sticks three years ago. We don’t want to damage them.

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The Catholic church in America: Earthly concerns

From The Economist:

The Catholic church is as big as any company in America. Bankruptcy cases have shed some light on its finances and their mismanagement

August 18, 2012

OF ALL the organisations that serve America’s poor, few do more good work than the Catholic church: its schools and hospitals provide a lifeline for millions. Yet even taking these virtues into account, the finances of the Catholic church in America are an unholy mess. The sins involved in its book-keeping are not as vivid or grotesque as those on display in the various sexual-abuse cases that have cost the American church more than $3 billion so far; but the financial mismanagement and questionable business practices would have seen widespread resignations at the top of any other public institution.

The sexual-abuse scandals of the past 20 years have brought shame to the church around the world. In America they have also brought financial strains. By studying court documents in bankruptcy cases, examining public records, requesting documents from local, state and federal governments, as well as talking to priests and bishops confidentially, The Economist has sought to quantify the damage.

The picture that emerges is not flattering. The church’s finances look poorly co-ordinated considering (or perhaps because of) their complexity. The management of money is often sloppy. And some parts of the church have indulged in ungainly financial contortions in some cases—it is alleged—both to divert funds away from uses intended by donors and to frustrate creditors with legitimate claims, including its own nuns and priests. The dioceses that have filed for bankruptcy may not be typical of the church as a whole. But given the overall lack of openness there is no way of knowing to what extent they are outliers.

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For Mormons, Race Is a Lightning Rod

From The Root:

By: Hillary Crosley
Posted: August 18, 2012

In 1852, Mormon leader Brigham Young described black skin as the curse of Cain, but in 1978 a letter from the Mormon presidency stated “all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color.” These words made it possible for blacks to hold the priesthood in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, previously banned, but did little to change deep-seated racism in the church.

It is through this lens that many black voters take issue with Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney. The New York Times delves into why race remains a thorny issue for Mormons.

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President Obama: “We’ve Come Too Far to Turn Back Now.”

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Amidst Protest, Construction Begins on Keystone XL Pipeline in Texas

From Truth Out

By Candice Bernd,
Saturday, 18 August 2012

Blockaders braved a wall of bulldozers early Thursday morning and unfurled banners that warned TransCanada to expect resistance the size of Texasif the company proceeds with construction of a pipeline to carry Canadian tar sands through the region as part of Keystone XL’s hastily rebranded “Gulf Coast Project.”

TransCanada broke ground last week on the southern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline, bucking more than four years of intense opposition to the project from farmers, ranchers and local communities representing thousands of people affected across Texas and Oklahoma.

There was no official ribbon-cutting ceremony to inaugurate construction at the pipeline’s staging area last week—in fact, TransCanada’s careful PR control and political pressures led to a virtual media blackout on the subject.

Instead, members of the Tar Sands Blockade a broad affiliation of activists opposing the project, traveled Thursday seven miles west of Paris, Texas, to christen the construction site in their own way: with a day of defiance, and the promise of rolling actions for as long as the pipeline plan proceeds.

“TransCanada is putting families that wanted nothing to do with this pipeline in harm’s way,” says blockade organizer Ron Seifert. “Since our leaders and representatives will do nothing to protect our friends and neighbors, the Tar Sands Blockade is calling for people everywhere to join us and defend our local communities from a multinational bully.”

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Beyond Money: Life and Death in a Cruel Economy

From Common Dreams:

by Robert C. Koehler
Published on Thursday, August 16, 2012 by Common Dreams

“Everyone loved him.”

The hole was too deep; these words couldn’t fill it. But there they remain, floating on the regret, vibrant with the possibility of a different kind of world. We’ve always been in the process of building that world, but the process has lacked a central cohesion . . . a god, if you will, to bless it and keep it.

Antonis Perris, an unemployed musician from Athens, found himself at age 60 living in a world where the love of his community didn’t matter and probably wasn’t even noticeable: He had lost his means to earn a living. Until Europe’s economic crisis hit, he had sustained himself and his elderly mother performing at local taverns. He had done well. Then business dried up. Finally, he reached a point where he saw no way to keep on living. The brief story of his death last May — one more “economic suicide” — was reported recently in the Washington Post:

“The next morning, Perris took the hand of his ailing 90-year-old mother. They climbed to the roof of their apartment building and leapt to their death.”

Europe has had thousands of economic suicides in the last few years. They always shock the community. In Greece, which has been reeling in economic crisis for five years now, “The suicide notes left in coat pockets or on desks,” the Post writes, “. . . are being passed around on the Internet and studied like the final treatises of revered scholars.”

“Everyone loved him,” a local café owner said. People would have helped him out, and helped his mother, who suffered from Alzheimer’s. But they didn’t know how badly the two were doing. Now their deaths are a gash across the community, across the country and perhaps all of Europe — and perhaps large parts of the so-called First World, where the middle class is crumbling. The poverty and despoliation — the dark side of capitalism — are no longer contained, relegated to the Third World and the Third World pockets of the First.

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No silver medal: Mexican farmers battle Canadian mine for control of their land

From Waging Non-Violence:

by August 17, 2012

Civil disobedience has halted production at Mexico’s “top grade producer of silver.” Farmers of the La Sierrita village, a close knit community of about 50 families, located 40 minutes north of the city of Gomez Palacio, Durango, have shut down the La Platosa mine owned by Canadian firm Excellon Resources for over a month.

This comes in response to the company’s refusal to negotiate with the community over its requests for the preferential hiring of local people on whose land the company operates, as well as pay the rental rates for its use. Labor conditions within the underground mine where many local residents work is also an issue. Dozens of community members have maintained a nonviolent blockade of the one road into the mine, allowing only essential maintenance workers to pass, resulting in extraction grinding to a halt.

In recent years mining operations have drawn local protests from Peru to Tanzania and Papua New Guinea. Mexico is the site of several high profile struggles, nearly all involving Canadian companies. Communities are opposing the loss of their land and its contamination with toxins, including arsenic and cyanide, which are used in abundance in the extraction of gold.

Unlike many of these conflicts, the residents of La Sierrita have succeeded in inflicting a substantial economic cost to the company. As in the case of an effective strike, it is hoped that the continued shut down of its sole mining operation will eventually force Excellon to yield. Along with the community’s unified resolve to maintain the blockade, what distinguishes this struggle is that so far, it has succeeded in effectively disrupting the mine without triggering violent repression from the Mexican government or the company.

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