Gut Check Time for Lesbian TS/TG Women

I personally get really tired of the Lesbian Community and their trips regarding TS/TG women including post-transsexual women.

A lot of the time I feel more objectified by lesbians than I do by men.

I get sick and tired of people trying to write theory on my body instead of just accepting me for who I am.

I am a human being.  I had my reasons for having a sex change operation.  My gender is just as natural or unnatural as the next woman.

It is a product of and reflective of my socialization just as with any other woman.

Over a life time I’ve loved and made love with both men and women.

I have been with Tina since 2001 and I am monogamous.

I am bisexual and mostly homosocial.  The lesbian community has made it very hard for me to want to embrace the term lesbian, so often I use the 1970s expression “dyke” instead.

Here is where the gut check resides.

Ask yourself this question:

As a post-transsexual lesbian would I take another post-transsexual lesbian as a lover?

Would you consider marrying another post-transsexual woman presuming of course the other things that cement a relationship?

If you are a TG or pre-op lesbian identified sister would you become lovers with or marry another sister in the same situation you are in?

Would you feel that relationship was just as valid a lesbian relationship as one between two cis-sex/gender lesbians or between a TS/TG lesbian and a Cis-sex/gender lesbian?

If being asked to imagine that troubles you or if you reject that idea ask yourself why you feel that way.

Perhaps some post-transsexual as well as pre-op and TG sisters need to think about their own cotton ceilings that they are carrying around.

What does it say about you if you would reject another sister, even one of the same surgery status as yourself because you think the idea of going to bed with her is kind of icky.

If some where in the back of your mind there is the tiny kernel of fear that this is too much like being or someone could construe us as being two gay guys.

That’s a hard one to shake when people tell us that is what we are, but breaking down our own cotton ceilings is an important step in getting rid of them for everyone.

We have to value ourselves and others like us, our sisters who have walked the same paths we ourselves have walked, enough to not reject another lesbian identified sister just because she too is TS or TG.

There may be other reasons, legitimate ones for not wanting to become involved.

But rejecting the possibility and then complaining when cis-sex/gender lesbians reject you because you are trans is sort of weird.

I think this means a lot of sisters need to work on their own internalized transphobia and self-esteem issues.

Validation comes from within but acceptance by others requires the accepting of others.

Right now there is some really shitty stuff going on in the Lesbian Community and I’m glad I’m not part of it.

Pussy Riot trial gives Russia ‘the image of a medieval dictatorship’

From The Guardian UK:

Even some of Putin’s supporters are aghast at the penal term handed out to the feminist punks. Amid a global storm of protest, signs have emerged that they might be released early – but a deep national rift remains, Saturday 18 August 2012

A storm of criticism broke in Russia following the harsh two-year prison sentences given to three members of the feminist punk band Pussy Riot for protesting against the government in a Moscow cathedral. Those openly critical of the jail terms included some who are close to Vladimir Putin and others with strong links to the church, increasing pressure on the authorities to treat the trio more leniently.

Three members of the punk collective – Maria Alyokhina, 24, Yekaterina Samutsevich, 30, and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22 – were sentenced to serve two years in a penal colony on Friday after being found guilty of “hooliganism motivated by religious hatred”. A Moscow judge rejected the defence’s argument that the band’s performance of an anti-Putin “punk prayer” was a form of political protest and ruled that it was motivated by hatred for Russian Orthodoxy.

Alexey Kudrin, a former finance minister who remains a close ally of Putin, said: “The verdict in the case against the Pussy Riot punk band isn’t only a fact in the lives of three young women; it is also yet another blow to the justice system and, above all, Russian citizens’ belief in it.”

Billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, another member of the country’s minority liberal elite, also attacked the verdict, calling it a “strategic error that terribly damages the authority of the justice system”. He voiced the widespread belief that the court case was politically orchestrated: “We don’t know who took the final decision – the Kremlin? The patriarch? Probably not the court itself.”

Opposition activists have accused Putin of orchestrating the campaign against Pussy Riot. The trio were arrested after a brief performance in Moscow’s Cathedral of Christ the Saviour of a song calling for the Virgin Mary to “chase Putin out”. The band formed in response to Putin’s decision to return to the presidency, and have gone from being a radical fringe group to becoming the figureheads of a protest movement numbering tens of thousands.

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Pussy Riot Protest: 6 Protestors Arrested In NYC

Russia faces international condemnation over Pussy Riot

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NOM’s Robert George Is Responsible For Family Research Council’s Anti-Gay Hate Speech

From The New Civil Rights Movement:

by Scott Rose
on August 18, 2012

Reposted with permission

According to Robert P. George‘s Princeton University bio, Robert George sits on the Board of Directors  of the anti-gay hate group Family Research Council (FRC).

George also is a founder and current mastermind of the anti-gay-rights National Organization for Marriage (NOM).

Together with the convicted felon Chuck Colson, Robert George wrote and promoted the gay-bashing Manhattan Declaration.

Though hate group leader Robert George wrote the following phrase into his declaration — “We believe in law and in the rule of law” — the hypocrite’s group NOM broke campaign finance laws 18 times.

Robert George — a head of that anti-gay group of  law-breakers — also is, deplorably, embedded in the United States government as part of the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom.

Bearing critical witness about Robert George’s and NOM’s gay-bashing hatred to the California Fair Political Practices Commission, Ellen Sturtz of Equality California said:

“I come here today, urging you to do your utmost to protect our democracy against those who have contempt for it, us and our laws.”

Robert George’s Family Research Council, aggressively assisted by Robert George’s National Organization For Marriage, long has propagandized — and by that I mean, told lies about — why the Southern Poverty Law Center placed the Family Research Council on its anti-gay hate groups list.

SPLC’s main criteria for putting an anti-gay group on the hate groups list include that a group spreads demonizing lies against gay people.

There is seemingly no end to the demonizing lies that Robert George, FRC and NOM spread against LGBTers.

Here is one example from all of the demonizing lies that Robert George’s FRC spreads against gays:

“One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order.”

NOM’s Brian Brown recently appeared on television. A CNN interviewer asked him about that FRC statement:

“Isn’t that hateful in your opinion?”

Brian Brown answered: “No.”

The interviewer had already told the anti-gay bigot Brian Brown — directly– that from that statement, and others like it:

“We . . understand why they were labeled a hate group.”

It was not clear whether the interviewer understands that NOM’s Robert George also is an FRC board member. However that may be, she tried once more with NOM’s Brian Brown.

“It is spewing hate,” she said. She asked if he agrees that it is spewing hate; Brian Brown said “No.”

Something that Robert George, the FRC and NOM appear not yet to have comprehended is that mainstream America recognizes anti-gay hate speech when it hears it. With ever-accelerating rapidity, more and more Americans are understanding that all bullying non-acceptance of LGBTers is rooted in sheer hate and ignorance. Despite Robert George’s, FRC’s and NOM’s best efforts to poison people’s minds against LGBTers, the expansion of understanding, acceptance and support for equality is inexorable.

Still, being as Robert George has not yet apologized for the above example of FRC’s anti-gay hate speech, let us analyze what makes it hate speech.

The sentence identifies “the homosexual rights movement” as the “defendant” of the accusation, but it does not specify who that defendant is, meaning, Robert George/FRC are alleging that all persons involved with “the homosexual rights movement” are guilty of the accusation.

One part of the accusation is that a “primary goal” of “the homosexual rights movement” is “to abolish all age of consent laws.”

By many measures, President Obama, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg are heroes of “the homosexual rights movement.”

In other words, FRC’s Robert George is standing behind — and staking his personal reputation and honor on — the allegation that Obama, Cuomo and Bloomberg “want to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order.”

Yet, Obama, Cuomo and Bloomberg have never in the least advocated abolishing age of consent laws.

So, given Robert George’s group’s anti-gay hate speech lies, it would appear that the Family Research Council’s Robert George’s personal reputation and honor are swirling in the toilet of baseless and defamatory lies where he put them.

Moreover, even if all heterosexual LGBT rights allies are removed from the “defendants” class of Robert George/FRC’s hateful and ridiculous allegation, there is no evidence — admissible in a court or otherwise — that any recognized and established LGBT rights  organization seeks to abolish all age of consent laws.

As an attorney, Robert George perhaps understands the trouble he would have demonstrating to a court of law that his hate speech corresponds to documentable facts.

The evil and malicious aims of this Robert George/Family Research Council hate speech are clear; signal to voters that what gay rights advocates really want is to rape children, in order to hate-and-fear-monger voters into voting against gay rights.

By ghastly ironic coincidence, anti-gay hate group leader Robert George also is on the Board of Advisors of The Catholic League, which fights by the Catholic Church’s side, tooth-and-nail, against the lifting of statutes of limitations for prosecution of child rapes.

That is to say, while fraudulently alleging that all gay rights advocates are pedophiles, Robert P. George is on the Board of Advisors of a group very aggressively seeking to deny child rape victims their days in court.


There is something especially egregious and pernicious about a hate group putting the word “research” in its name, as though all the gay-bashing defamation it pumps out could be dignified with what the word “research” most often implies, i.e. academic discipline, respect for facts, and respect for others.

When NOM sponsored an anti-gay hate rally where one of its speakers yelled through a megaphone that homosexuals are “worthy to death,” virtually the entire “homosexual rights movement” called for NOM to apologize.

NOM ignored those calls then, and has never officially apologized.

For instructions on how to report Robert George’s National Organization for Marriage as a hate group, go here.

Robert George is a Republican party United States government official with authority over FRC and NOM, which deliberately spread demonizing lies against gay people, not stopping short of saying that gay people are “worthy to death.”

And, as a U.S. government official drawing a salary funded by tax payers, FRC’s and NOM’s Robert George has authority over a group known to break campaign finance laws.

Call and write your U.S. Senators and Congresspeople.

Tell them that you object to your taxes paying the salary of Robert George, whose groups, the Family Research Council and the National Organization For Marriage, deliberately scapegoat a social minority by spreading demonizing lies against gays.

Tell your Senators and Congresspeople that you do not think it is appropriate for Robert George to be a U.S. government official, being as he has authority over a group that breaks campaign finance laws.

Tell your Senators and Congresspeople that it is absurd and repugnant for Robert George to be a commissioner with the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom, given that Robert George tells demonizing lies against gay people in hopes of eventually prohibiting all clergy who wish to marry gay couples from doing so.

New York City-based novelist and freelance writer Scott Rose’s LGBT-interest by-line has appeared on,, The New York Blade,, Girlfriends and in numerous additional venues. Among his other interests are the arts, boating and yachting, wine and food, travel, poker and dogs. His “Mr. David Cooper’s Happy Suicide” is about a New York City advertising executive assigned to a condom account.

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Why Would a ‘Mainstream Conservative Think Tank’ Praise the ‘Kill the Gays’ Law?

From Right Wing Watch

by Josh Glasstetter
Fri, 08/17/2012

Dana Milbank writes in a column in today’s Washington Post, “Hateful speech on hate groups,” that the Southern Poverty Law Center “should stop listing a mainstream Christian advocacy group alongside neo-Nazis and Klansmen.” He’s talking about the Family Research Council, which he describes as “a mainstream conservative think tank founded by James Dobson and run for many years by Gary Bauer” which “advocates for a full range of conservative Christian positions, on issues from stem cells to euthanasia.” Going further, Milbank says it’s “reckless” for groups like SPLC to designate FRC as a “hate group.”
While reading all of this, I couldn’t help but wonder why a “mainstream conservative think tank” would defend a bill in Uganda that would put gays and lesbians in prison for life and put them to death for “serial” offenses, among other things. If Milbank had done his homework before writing his column, he would’ve been wondering this same thing.
The reality is that FRC is not a “mainstream conservative think tank.” That’s why FRC is one of only a handful of the many, many groups that oppose equality for gays and lesbians to be designated a “hate group” by SPLC. There’s a big difference between being conservative and being an extremist, but many in the media are missing the distinction. Kyle and Peter have already written about FRC’s history of extremism and SPLC’s criteria (here and here), but I’d like to focus on one particularly outrageous example here.
Back in June of 2010, FRC president Tony Perkins praised the infamous “kill the gays” bill in Uganda, referring to it as an effort to “uphold moral conduct that protects others and in particular the most vulnerable.” The bill that Perkins defended called for life in prison for having sex, even once, with a member of the same sex, or touching someone of the same sex with the intention of having sex.
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Weekly Address: Congress Should Back Plan to Hire Teachers

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Kentucky Distressed That Their God-Fearing Students Are Stupid

From Crooks and Liars:

By Susie Madrak
August 17, 2012

I assume the solution to this problem will be to create more evangelical colleges like Liberty University, where students can concentrate on the really important things, like skirt lengths, hair styles, prayer life, preventing kissing and dancing, random drug tests, avoiding witchcraft, or R-rated movies.

From Wonkett’s Rich Abdill:

Kentucky Republicans passed education legislation in 2009 that made it easier to compare the state’s students to other states. Now they’re very upset that the results came back Stupid.

ACT, the state’s testing company, interviews professors to figure out the things most important to student readiness for college, which sounds like a smart thing to do. Unfortunately, those professors have bad news: If you want students to do well in biology classes, they have to know about evolution.

Rather predictably, the Kentucky GOP is madder than a plumber in a Chipotle.“I think we are very committed to being able to take Kentucky students and put them on a report card beside students across the nation,” said Republican Sen. David Givens. “We’re simply saying to the ACT people we don’t want what is a theory to be taught as a fact in such a way it may damage students’ ability to do critical thinking.”

Yes! Let’s teach students about how Chuck E. Cheese made the Earth out of popsicle sticks three years ago. We don’t want to damage them.

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The Catholic church in America: Earthly concerns

From The Economist:

The Catholic church is as big as any company in America. Bankruptcy cases have shed some light on its finances and their mismanagement

August 18, 2012

OF ALL the organisations that serve America’s poor, few do more good work than the Catholic church: its schools and hospitals provide a lifeline for millions. Yet even taking these virtues into account, the finances of the Catholic church in America are an unholy mess. The sins involved in its book-keeping are not as vivid or grotesque as those on display in the various sexual-abuse cases that have cost the American church more than $3 billion so far; but the financial mismanagement and questionable business practices would have seen widespread resignations at the top of any other public institution.

The sexual-abuse scandals of the past 20 years have brought shame to the church around the world. In America they have also brought financial strains. By studying court documents in bankruptcy cases, examining public records, requesting documents from local, state and federal governments, as well as talking to priests and bishops confidentially, The Economist has sought to quantify the damage.

The picture that emerges is not flattering. The church’s finances look poorly co-ordinated considering (or perhaps because of) their complexity. The management of money is often sloppy. And some parts of the church have indulged in ungainly financial contortions in some cases—it is alleged—both to divert funds away from uses intended by donors and to frustrate creditors with legitimate claims, including its own nuns and priests. The dioceses that have filed for bankruptcy may not be typical of the church as a whole. But given the overall lack of openness there is no way of knowing to what extent they are outliers.

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