Chris Hayes Is Right About Heroes

I am sick and tired of the meme that says that those in the military are heroes.

Just like I am sick and fucking tired of being told I owe them my freedom.  What the Fuck?

The only people who owe the military for their freedom are the rich and powerful.

As for them being heroes.  My heroes don’t murder people.

My heroes say no to war.

From Mother Jones:  http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/chris-hayes-heroes

By Erik Kain
Tue May. 29, 2012

On his show on MSNBC this Sunday, Chris Hayes dedicated an hour to the subject of Memorial Day. During the show, Hayes admitted that labeling all fallen American soldiers as “heroes” made him uncomfortable.

“It is very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the word hero. Why do I feel so uncomfortable about the word hero?” Hayes said. “I feel uncomfortable with the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war. And I obviously don’t want to desecrate or disrespect the memory of anyone that has fallen. Obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is tremendous heroism. You know, hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers, things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that’s problematic, but maybe I’m wrong about that.”

The backlash was as swift and fierce as one would expect.

Breitbart.com’s Kurt Schlichter argues that “the real problem for Chris Hayes is that he actually said what he thinks. He thinks our soldiers are suckers and fools at best, brutal sociopaths at worst. At a minimum, he feels that honoring those who died for this country might encourage people to see that actually defending our country is a good thing. He’s not quite ready to make that leap; after all, most progressives are ambivalent about this whole “America” concept, if not actively opposed to it.”

This is obviously silly. American conservatives carry on endlessly about the value of individualism, but when it comes to praising soldiers on their individual merits, rather than en masse, it’s suddenly downright anti-American. Chris Hayes is practically spitting on the troops, according to Schlichter, who does his very best to avoid context and nuance in favor of ad hominem and vitriol. It’s par for the course with all-things-Breitbart, but does a good enough job illustrating the cultural divide animating this dispute.

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2 Responses to “Chris Hayes Is Right About Heroes”

  1. denisesined336Denise Holliday Says:

    I feel the people who posted are mixing up their political views and the role of the military. I am almost 65, I am Post-op Trans and I am married with a spouse and 2 children alive and one who died in an accident. I am also an ex service military person who served with the British Army in Northern Ireland. So I have seen all sides of this argument in real time and a few other ways besides. The Military I served with were there to protect civilians and occasionally were involved in fire fights. It was what they were there to do. If they were killed they were killed doing their duty of following orders. That is an honourable thing. The nature of the orders is a different kettle of fish. Politicians decide those issues and to ask military people to discern right from wrong with their orders is not feasible. If a soldier behaves badly and against regulations he can be charged but that is a military issue. Please concentrate on those that place the orders of command to send troops abroad in bad situations and not attack and punish the people who serve to protect our safety and rights.
    Whether they are British, American, Russian, Chinese or any other nationality this rule still applies and rules of warfare are laid down by civilians for military to follow.

    • Suzan Says:

      I do not consider those who serve the interests of the rich and powerful, those who extend the power of the elites to be heroes. Rather I consider them tools to be sacrificed in the interests of the rich and powerful


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