Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window

From ACLU Blog:

Posted by Chris Anders
November 23, 2011

While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.

Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.

The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.

The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.

I know it sounds incredible. New powers to use the military worldwide, even within the United States? Hasn’t anyone told the Senate that Osama bin Laden is dead, that the president is pulling all of the combat troops out of Iraq and trying to figure out how to get combat troops out of Afghanistan too? And American citizens and people picked up on American or Canadian or British streets being sent to military prisons indefinitely without even being charged with a crime. Really? Does anyone think this is a good idea? And why now?

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4 Responses to “Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window”

  1. aformeroldfriend Says:

    I could make a smart ass comment about conspiracy theories but I won’t.
    This has been in the works since the late 60s. Those of us who knew about it in the 70s were laughed at, then in the 80s we were called names We were ignored in the 90s and when Clinton and Bush started to push some of this stuff we were listed as enemies of the state.

    This is your last warning.
    If you don’t get off your asses and do something you can kiss this country and your life goodbye. Because after they take your money they are coming after you.

    • Suzan Says:

      Stuff like this goes back to the days of John Adams and the “Alien and Sedition Acts” During WWI we had the Sedition Act that resulted in the deportation of Emma goldman and others, the destruction of the IWW, the locking up of pacifists etc. After WWII we had McCarthyism, the Red Scare HUAC. The 1960s saw the FBI/KKK collaborations, COINTELPRO etc.

      Now we have the PATRIOT ACT and Homeland Security. Bush abolished the Posse Comitatus Act.

      From Wikipedia: (The Posse Comitatus Act is an often misunderstood and misquoted United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies from using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order”; it simply requires that any orders to do so must originate with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress.

      The statute only directly addresses the US Army (and is understood to equally apply to the US Air Force as a derivative of the US Army); it does not reference, and thus does not implicitly apply to nor restrict units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States. The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive, not by the Act itself.[1][2] The Coast Guard, under the Department of Homeland Security, is exempt from the Act.)

      In short there is little to prevent the government from dealing with something like Occupy by sending in the tanks and military armed with machine guns, although that would officially mean the end of the US Constitution as we know it.

      TEOTWAWKI (The End Of The World As We Know It).

      Ironically both the people on the far left and on the far right seem to be the only ones who appreciate how fragile the barrier between relative freedom and totalitarianism is.

      Considering how manipulated we are by the control of information and the gathering of dossiers on everyone, perhaps it would be better to say how fragile the delusion of freedom is.

  2. tinagrrl Says:

    The right blames all this on the left. The left blames all this on the right.

    Libtard, Traitor, Commie — Nazi, Fascist, Know Nothing — etc., etc., etc.

    At the very same time, some of the Religious Right want a “Theocracy”, making anything LGBT “illegal”, and the far left often wants an end to all “religious indoctrination”.

    While WE are fighting each other in the various “culture wars”, the folks who RUN this country are laughing as they tighten the noose. It’s all about CONTROL.

    As long as we fight each other, as long as we are involved in the interminable “identity politics” crap — WE will never get anywhere.

    So, some folks have their guns. Some are ready for a long siege. Meanwhile our gov’t can disable us with sound, gas, and other “non-lethal” weapons

    If that doesn’t work, some kid in a bunker miles away can take YOU out from above via drone, without even putting down his Coke or Pepsi.
    i guess it makes more sense to blame the right, blame the left, blame anyone you want — except those who are currently running the show. Can’t do that — “we” now candetain AMERICAN CITIZENS forever — just because “we” WANT TO.

    WE blame each other. WE develop conspiracy theories about our “opponents”. We play politics, while our nation , our country, disappears.

    Once again, I’m glad I’m 72 and not 32. Good luck to those who are 32 — you will need it.

  3. aformeroldfriend Says:

    Those of us who know better know the left and the right are controlled by the same people. The whole purpose of the left, right paradigm is to keep people fighting with each other. With their attention on this false paradigm those in control can work on achieving their goals, which doesn’t include freedom and Justus for all.

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