Severe weather warning as Hurricane Katia tail approaches UK

From The Guardian UK: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/11/severe-weather-warning-hurricane-katia

Gales, combined with heavy rain, could cause significant disruption in Ireland, England and Scotland

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 11 September 2011

A severe weather warning covering northern Ireland, England and Scotland has been issued by the Met Office, with forecasts saying Britain will be lashed by the tail of Hurricane Katia, causing gale-force winds of up to 80mph late on Sunday and Monday.

The gales, combined with heavy rain, could cause “significant disruption” for Monday morning commuters and, where high winds coincide with high tides along western coasts, there could be flooding.

Although the winds will not be hurricane force by the time Katia – rated a category four hurricane at its peak – reaches the UK, the Met Office chief forecaster, Eddie Carroll, urged people to keep up to date with forecast warnings.

He added: “There’s still a fair amount of uncertainty about the track and strength of the winds.”

5 Responses to “Severe weather warning as Hurricane Katia tail approaches UK”

  1. Andrea B. Says:

    Apparently the worst will be at my parents home place.

    http://www.rte.ie/weather/

    Had worse.

    Kind of suprised this is news. Must be a slow news day or they want to try hyping up fear in another area.

    95% of houses in Ireland have double cavity concrete walls. About 5% have an outer concrete wall and an inner wooden inner frame, which were mostly built by developer-banker, short cut taking, greed mongers, who destroyed the Irish economy.

    My parents house is built like an air raid shelter out of solid conrete. Roof tiles are very heavy, as they are 3cm thick. Inner space in the roof is braced by beams of oak 40cm by 20cm. Bad weather is not really an issue, where my parents live. My dad built the house with mum labouring to him. No corners were cut when that house was built, just like every family built home, in the area. The Irish, Scottish and Welsh are used to bad weather and take it in there stride.

    Most of the houses on the North west of Ireland, built more than 15 years ago, could take 150mph winds in there stride, due to them being solid and built to last for generations.

    My cousins in the North of Scotland will not be bothered by it in the slightest. Occasisonally in winter there homes have literally been covered in snow in drifts. At her house, good weather would be news.

    Only in areas of very newly built on the cheap homes in the far south of Ireland will there ever real damage, due to Neo-Liberal greed mongers, cutting corners when building. The same applies in the south of England.

    Just realising a good hurricane could wipe away some of the crap homes built by the bankers-developers that can’t be sold due to half them being timber framed crap, with some luck.

    • Suzan Says:

      As with the hurricane that hit New York a couple of weeks ago is isn’t the tropical storm winds that blow the houses down it is the storm surge and the massive rains.

  2. Andrea B. Says:

    @ Suzan,

    Very few homes in Ireland would be affected by a storm surge, even at high tide on a spring tide, in a category 5 hurricaine. Until 12 years ago it was next to impossible to get planning permission to build a home on a flood plain or on a site that could be destroyed by the sea during a storm. Most houses up to that point on flood plains were farmers houses, who knew exactly what they were doing. Most were raised a bit above the surrounding land. The Fianna Fail-Progressive Democrats government removed that restriction about 12 years ago and then the Fianna Fail-Green Party government turned building a sub standard home in a dangerous area, into a free for all.

    I have a lot of friends who have holiday homes beside the sea, but they are all elevated, over looking the sea with a brilliant view.

    Also massive rain will not affect homes in the same way as in the USA. The average Irish home is extremely solid and the flooring is well above ground level. Foundations in Ireland have to go well below the soil layer to harder ground or preferably rock. It has been that way since before the state was even founded. The foundations on my parents home go down three meters, onto solid rock. There are homes 300 to 400 years old in my parents area and there foundations go right down the same depths in most of them.

    An actual monsoon rainfall would have no effect on any of the homes where may parents live. Most would see it as beneficial to clean dust away, clean away leaves, clean roofs, flush sewage pipes and to give the rivers a good torrent to get the fish up.

    The real damage will be electricity of for a few hours in some areas or if a pylon comes down for maybe 12 to 16 hours and flooding of some fields with crops in them.

  3. Andrea B. Says:

    This is a good round up of the minimal damage, caused by the storm in Ireland.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0912/weather.html

  4. tinagrrl Says:

    “I have a lot of friends who have holiday homes beside the sea, but they are all elevated, over looking the sea with a brilliant view.”

    Look at what Hurricane Rita and Hurricane Ike did to “elevated homes overlooking the sea with a brilliant view”.

    Never having been in a hurricane you still seem to be somewhat dismissive of their raw power. If a storm surge happens to overtake them, those basements fill with water — weakening even rather solid stone foundations. Some rather solid houses have been reduced to nothing in a serious hurricane.

    Heck, the 1938 hurricane that hit Eastern Long Island (N.Y.) carved a new inlet between the ocean and the bay. It’s the Shinnecock Inlet which is still used as a route to the ocean by boaters. Prior to the hurricane folks owned that land, and had rather lovely elevated beach houses there. — all swept away.

    Ireland, England, etc. have not had much truly extreme weather over the last few hundred years. There is a possibility that will change in the future.

    Hurricanes, tornadoes, rain at over 2″ per hour, massive heat waves, etc. Oh, wait, you did have some massive heat waves on The Continent, in Russia, etc., recently. If I recall correctly, y’all were not very well prepared for that.

    Hope you don’t get some more extreme stuff you have never had to deal with before — it’s no fun.


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