If I have moderated my position all that much it is mainly to say, “Alright… Let’s treat 24/7/365 transgenders who take hormones, have FFS, mammoplasty or mastectomies, grow beards or have beards eradicated and adhere to the same behavior as expected of pre-ops in the same way we expect pre-ops to be treated.
Or allow M to Fs the same lee way as allowed F to Ms. Not necessarily on matters such birth certificates but in matters such as driver’s licenses. The same goes for matters like ENDA and Hate Crimes bills although I’m far more liberal on the hate crimes protections.
Working on ad hoc issues is not the same as philosophical discussion, a point I have stressed on numerous occasions.
Protecting people doesn’t mean not punishing deviant behavior. The person who waves their dick around in the women’s room violates the basic idea behind protecting the rights of those who don’t. You punish that person. Think of it this way… I was verbally abused on pretty much a constant basis by a bunch of bullies who used the phrase, “It’s a free country and I can say what I want.” Except in doing so they were denying me my rights.
Now I received a post on TransgenderNews
It is from something called TeamTrans:
Owen just got off the phone from a conference call about the bill that’s going before the House and Senate about Gender Anti-Discrimination. (insert) The group decided in order to pass the bill for employment and housing to remove the part about Public Access
– which means that:
Transfolks can be refused entrance to their preferred restroom.
Transfolks can be refused rooms at hotels.
Transfolks can be refused the use of a changing room at a clothing store.
Transfolks can be excluded from changing/locker rooms.
Transfolks can be refused service at bars, restaurants and nightclubs.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! This is a violation of basic civil rights!!! What about those folks who don’t take hormones? Who decide for whatever reason to not have surgery? Those who don’t ‘pass’? Those who do take hormones or have/had surgery and STILL don’t ‘pass’? Those who don’t identify as anything in the gender binary? What voice do they have?
You want to know where I make the dividing line? Well here I is. It will be a cold day in hell before I push for these folks position.
Not that they do not have the right to push for it themselves.
As for those who don’t identify with the gender binary… Life is going to be hard. I know, I was a left wing commie hippie teen age transkid in the North Country of New York when I decided life would be better for me in either Greenwich Village or the Haight Ashbury.
They called us flower children, we called ourselves freaks and embraced being different. Now I’m an aging old left wing woman and when I go to concerts featuring the artists of my youth the audiences are filled with people with the same history who look as middle class as I do.
Being a young outlaw is easy getting old mainstreams us in many ways. Others who cling to that outsider status die young because it is a hard life.