Joanne’s Observation

“Its neutering in another sense too. Because it denies what we can become. Containing us forever in the “you’re still what you were” world. Most HBS born leave that world behind.”

This is one reason I always call it either a “sex change operation” or “sex reassignment surgery”.  That is what it does and I have little tolerance for mincing words about what it does.

Gender seems like a word game that denies the reality of what the operation does.

If we are ever going to get past psychopathologizing we have to both cut the bullshit and reclaim the power of our own thinking about the matter.

Sometimes it seems like we are pandering or weaseling around about stuff because we are afraid some one will say harsh words to us.

BTW Joanne we should mutually put up links and are you running Google Analytics on your Blog?

4 Responses to “Joanne’s Observation”

  1. Catherine Says:

    I started reading this blog, because it was nice to finally have someone not throw me under the proverbial ‘umbrella’. I’m tired of listening to people who don’t know me say that being a transsexual is going to be “a part of your life for the rest of your life” after having spent almost my entire life as a woman.

    My only problem when reading this site is the belief that SRS somehow makes one a woman. I think Suzan put it quite well when she said that those of us that transitioned young (I started hormones around 15 with surgery at 18), didn’t so much as ‘transition’ as ‘grew up’. My problem with SRS as an indicator of womanhood is that I know more than a few people that live as ‘transgendered’ after SRS. What about the people that get SRS at 40 or 50 and continue to work as men on the week days and live as women at home or on the weekends? Does their SRS make them as much a woman as I’ve been my whole life?

    I’m a woman because, for all intents and purposes, I’ve had a woman’s life. The SRS was, of course, pivotal for me, but only because I was young enough to have had no real past to transition from. I always knew what kind of woman I hoped I would grow up to be and after SRS I had the freedom to be the woman I am today because, at the time, society afforded me that freedom since they weren’t intimately involved in every aspect of my private life the way they seem to be today in the US. Having ‘grown up’ (transitioned) young, I also had no experience working as a man to get money for surgery, no wife, kids or guys at the local pub calling me ‘buddy’ for the last 30 years. I didn’t have to run from a past in order to live as the woman I knew myself to be thanks to some incredibly understanding parents that didn’t force me into a role.

    Perhaps this is why the ‘transgendered’ movement is so strong. The main thing that the transgender community has going for it is the experience of ‘male privilege’. This means they expect and demand respect, and many have the funds and more importantly, the ego, to force society to bend, to a certain degree, to their wishes. The reason it is so easy for them to “hijack” (love the term) my life and call me transgendered is because they have the power, or perceived power, to do so.

    The problem, for me, in fighting the transgender label forced upon me in this day and age, is that I never had, nor will have, male privilege. I had a good education and a good job, but I never made as much as the guy sitting next me and it took twice the amount of work to get half the respect. There’s still a long road to just achieving some sort of equality as a woman before I would ever have the ability to fight the transgender machina and I do not have the energy to fight two wars. Though I’m very happy there are people speaking out against the bully the transgender movement has become.

    SRS was necessary in order to live my life as a woman, but having lived (and more importantly, been accepted) as a woman over my entire adult life is what makes me the woman I am today. I’ve found that being who we are isn’t so much based on surgeries or desires but on our experiences and how we are accepted by society in general. I can’t see SRS as the only requirement of womanhood. I’ve met too many that are not accepted as women despite SRS, simply because they lack the experience and ability to blend into society as the women they claim to be which has given birth to the transgender label. If they can’t naturally be seen or accepted as women, then I guess they needed to create a new gender called “trans-gendered” and then beat the public into submission with it in the hopes that they’ll eventually, at the very least, accept them as ‘different’ kinds of women and men. They essentially seek to force society to respect them and while they do deserve respect, that does not give them the right to disrespect others lives in order to achieve their ends. If anyone who crosses any gender boundary is transgendered, then the entire human race must be transgendered. We all have things that qualify as atypical to our respective genders. I am so tired of the transgender community trying to boil down my entire life to one singular experience that lasted a short time when I was a child. And similarly it is wrong to base my whole being on one surgery. If I had lived my life as male up to this point and currently decided to have SRS, I don’t believe it would instantly make me a woman without the experience of living as a woman attached to it. I would hope my womanhood is more than just what’s not between my legs.

  2. Suzan Says:

    Catherine sez: “My only problem when reading this site is the belief that SRS somehow makes one a woman.”

    Actually it makes one female.

    Without attaching a bunch of the gender babble to it women are adult females.

    What people do with that reality is as infinitely different as there are people.

    Many are suckered in by the transgender ideology. Many who are initially suckered in come around after a few years. Some find the rewards of adhering to the ideology fulfilling.

    Some cave into the censuring they receive for not going along with the ideology. (you must admit you and I have been given a lot of crap for our outspoken criticism of the TG ideology).

    Those who made a mistake or weren’t really right for SRS go back or something.

    This isn’t an easy karma to carry and I don’t make up rules for others. I deal with my existential problems my way others deal with it their way.

    The reality is that 5-7 years on if people who come out later in life aren’t in a public spot light or carrying the family burden they gain the same sort of life experience of carrying all the expectations place upon people with vaginas.

    I’ve also noticed in myself and others who come out young there still has to be the post-SRS socialization into the reality of having a pussy between your legs.

  3. Catherine Says:

    Suzan,

    Thank you so much for the clarification. I agree. There does have to be a period of post-SRSs socialization and everyone has their own path to follow. I only really know my own. I’m just glad that you started this site. It’s nice having a place where I can go that doesn’t make me feel guilty for not having lived each day of my life with a “trans and proud” bumper sticker on my car. All I wish is the freedom to live my life as the woman I’ve been for years and I’m tired of getting beat up on because I don’t want to walk in a parade or see non-ops as the same thing as post-ops, etc.. I think we all have a unique life and it’s too bad we can’t all be judged as individuals based on our life experience instead of being lumped into groups. But I guess that’s human nature to a degree.

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience here. It’s helped me feel so much better about my feelings on the subject.

  4. fleur black Says:

    Interesting snippet…I used to post on a TG website in which some claimed to be HBS but lots were all over the TG spectrum…when I said I didn’t wnat to be undee teh TG umbrella I was skicked out by one of the very vocal ones…two years on and that vocal one says ‘i don’t belong under the TG umbrella now…’

    the chief moderator on that site claims to be woman in mans body but then includes lots of names, phrarses about rectums…I took him to task over getting crazy about his insurance company sending his mail in ordinary envelopes..he was going to get the police involved with this possible breach of security…gonna get the Confidentiality Managers sacked etc..
    I put the legal point that the sealed envelope is prefectly safe but that got his knickers in atwist..and he ranted ‘I’ve been on phone 15 minutes with chairman of the insurance company…I get results…cos I’ve got the balls…I’m not getting f****** about….I’ll kick some a***.’
    I said you are coming across more like a pitbull in need of castrating than a woman in a mans body.
    I got banned LOL


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